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What are the software/hardware requirements for network licensing of IronCAD?

Am I correct in understanding that IronCAD can only be installed on one machine per codeword with 5.0? That because of hardware fingerprinting the "honor system" floating license will no longer work? What about commuter licenses?

Rick...

Along with learning lessons, particularly the "hard" way, trying to "make it up on the next job" hardly ever seems to work out. Wish it did, but the lesson just gets driven home even more firmly when it does not.

And, as the company accountant can attest, we have had our share of "lessons". We ARE learning, though. At least we don't repeat the same mistakes... we just find new ones to make.

----> Dave

Dave,

I checked out your website. With the type of work you're doing it can't be easy. It looks like you guys have your act together so I'm sure it will work out in the long run.

The dongle. Sure, I'll bite. Suits me fine. Has anyone else noticed the conspicuous absence of any comment from the boys at head office? We know that you're watching us and it's beginning to freak us out. Oh Oh, pill time - Ok feel better now. When you guys manage to free yourself from between the rock and the hard place why not join in.

Just remember that the dongle has its problems too. There is a cost involved at IronCads end. They will pass it on somehow. You might not see it directly but I'm sure it will be hidden somewhere along the line. AA increase?

By the way. I've been wondering if anyone can tell me what the installed user base is for IronCad, and what percentage of users are on AA? It's hard to really get a good grip on these issues without having an idea about the numbers.

Cheers


Rick Dorrington
aero-safe technologies inc.

Hello IronCAD users,

We are watching this thread closely and have posted several replies on the first page. Joe Walsh's post really outlines our position. Right now, dongles are not being considered. But of course things can always change in the future. We are trying to make things easier on everyone, I have seen dongles fail frequently in the past and leave users without the use of the software. We appreciate your comments and look forward to making IronCAD the best possible experience.

Best regards,
IronKevin

I agree that dongles are hassle, especially for somebody working out of the office very often. Dongles on laptops tend to break off or get lost, etc.
Anyway, most of those advocating against the new licensing scheme are making assumptions about how re-registration is handled which are probably wrong, based on my recent experience:
When I re-installed IronCAD after installing WinXP on my computer, it refused to launch claiming that it couldn't obtain a license. When I tried to re-run the license installation file, it said that the license was already installed. This suggests that even changing the OS will change the machine ID and render an IC5 license invalid. So far so bad. However, the good news was that when I re-registred IC5, I was sent a new license installation file instantly, apparently by an automatic license server which doesn't care if the same serial number has been registered previously. That's nice because it means I don't have to go and ask IronCAD LLC to clear my previous registration in order to re-register. On the other hand, IronCAD LLC has a record of how many times I've registred the same serial number and thus may choose to come back to me and ask me to account for it. If it's going to stay that way, that's a policy I can live with.

Beat

Really? Your dog ate it?

Rick Dorrington
aero-safe technologies inc.

I have been told that if someone replaces their hardware that we will be able to work with that person and reset their license so that it can be re-activated on the new machine. I have yet to go through this process so I don't have any further details.

Thinking from the non-official standpoint I can imagine that we would have to qualify your change somehow. We don't want people calling in reporting they changed their hardware when in fact they are just trying to get a free license. I know that none of you would do that, but those people are out there.

When you think about it, would we really release a product that only ever works on the first piece of hardware that it was registered on. Would a company that is trying to make money and make their customers happy really do that to someone? We'd be out of business by now if we were releasing products that required you pay more money whenever you upgraded your hardware. It's not like we have the same monopoly that Microsoft does and can force people to go through a pain like that because there's no other choice. We plan on being in business for a very long time and that plan involves helping our customers be successful, not taking as much money from you as we possibly can.

I have been told many times by our developers, marketing, ceo, and everyone else above my head that we will insure our users will be able to continue using ironcad regardless of how many times they "upgrade" their hardware and that no one should be worried about it.

Chris,
Thanks for the clarification!